Gail’s Diep Flap and Apex Flap Journey
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Gail (00:04):
At 37 years old, I just did a random self-check. It wasn’t something I did often. I wish I had been doing them more often. I wasn’t worried about breast cancer. It wasn’t in my family. It just was not on my bingo card. And I felt a lump. And I called my OB- GYN and went and got it checked out and went for my very first mammogram. The radiologist tech disappeared and she brought back the actual radiologist to come and sit down and chat with me. And it all changed. And that’s when they were showing me various suspicious areas and that they would need to biopsy. And I just kind of lost it. It was just not how I thought it would go. And the tumor board came back and recommended mastectomy in lieu of radiation. And they just wanted to know what surgeon I wanted to use.
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And I’m like, “Well, I was not prepared for any of this. ” And I said, “Well, what kind of surgeon do I need?” And they said, “A breast surgeon.” I’m like, “I can’t name one.” People just started giving me the names and numbers of every single person they’ve ever known to have breast cancer. So I called all of them. And what I heard from a lot of these women were problems with their implants, capsular contracture. Many of these women trying to get their implants explanted. And I just heard story after story after story. And I was texting my local breast surgeon and learned about the deep flap and where you’re using your blood vessels and your tissue and fat from your abdomen and moving them up to your chest and after removing the breast tissue. And I really liked that idea. I was 38 years old and that was a way that I could not have to think about multiple implant surgeries over my lifetime.
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I liked the idea of using my own tissue. I liked the idea of not having foreign material in my body. And I decided to go down that path. And then I click on a link and I wound up at the newerleansbreastcenter.com and onto their APEX flap page. And I called and it was like having a warm hug over the phone. And Dr. Cabiling called me and he said, “Look, I’m skilled in the technique that you need and I will not take your muscle and I will not use mesh.” And I could not believe it. I knew that I had to do whatever I could do in my power to figure out how to go to New Orleans. A few weeks later, I flew down. I flew down to New Orleans with my mom and my husband, and I got my double mastectomy with an immediate deep flap at the same time, which is what I wanted.
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I wanted a skin sparing mastectomy. I wanted to do it at the same time. And I asked Dr. Cabiling to take a picture of my abdominal rectus muscle intact, and he did. He did what these surgeons told me was impossible. I did not have a 15 hour surgery. I had a six and a half hour surgery. I didn’t spend five nights in the ICU. I spent two nights in a 37 bed hospital dedicated to women undergoing mastectomy and reconstruction. There’s a 99% success rate with my surgeon here. And at home, my local surgeon wouldn’t even quote his success rate. He would just quote the national average. Many DFAB surgeons out there are not doing these every day. And here, my surgeon’s doing four of these a week. And now I can stand in front of a mirror without clothes on and be really excited about this new body that the center gave me.
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And it’s my own tissue that I get to have for the rest of my life. And then even after my phase two surgery, I took a little time off work, but I was back at work. And even a few months later, I was back into scuba diving and went down to Mexico and dough. And I was a very avid paraglider before all of this. And now I’m getting to fly and fly off mountains and fly off sand dunes. And now I’m sitting at a 3% chance of recurrence, which is well below the national average for each woman.
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The Center for Restorative Breast Surgery saved me. The care that I received here was absolutely amazing. The nurse team. Traveling for surgery was not as crazy as I thought it would be. I was given all the supplies I would need at home to help care for me. I had a PA that was in contact with me every week. If I had any questions, I had a number that I could call twenty four seven. It’s worth it. It’s worth it to travel to the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery. It sounds daunting. It sounds … I live in Oregon. It took me two flights to get here, and it was worth it. And it is worth the extra effort to come here to a place that just specializes in mastectomy and breast reconstruction.
Gail is a patient advocate for all women facing breast cancer. Through her own experiences, she has developed a list of invaluable questions to ask your doctor(s) when considering DIEP breast reconstruction. We hope you find this helpful as you begin your journey.
Diagnosed with Breast Cancer at Age 38
When I was 37 years old, I did a routine self-check and discovered a lump. Although I didn’t have a family history of breast cancer or genetic mutations, I got it checked immediately. Thankfully, it was initially diagnosed as benign.
While unfamiliar with Birad scores at the time, a worker mentioned I should return in 6 months as I was walking out the door.
Nine months later, I went back for a follow-up appointment (as I wasn’t worried about the breast). I was completely surprised when the radiologist came in to chat with me and recommended a biopsy of a suspicious area.
That area turned out to be an aggressive (high grade), early-stage, hormone-negative breast cancer. Due to its characteristics and my young age (38), the tumor board recommended a mastectomy.
Research Into Reconstruction Options
During the diagnosis process, I shared my situation with others. Everyone I spoke to offered the phone number of a woman who had experienced breast cancer. I called each one, learning about their experiences with reconstruction, including implants, using their tissue via TRAM or Latissimus flaps, and foregoing reconstruction altogether. This research solidified my desire to avoid implants and use my tissue.
Once diagnosed, my breast surgeon suggested a DIEP flap reconstruction, but expressed uncertainty about having enough tissue.
Finding the Right Surgeon and the Apex Flap
My local breast surgeon referred me to a plastic surgeon in Bend, Oregon. However, during our first meeting, he spent a significant amount of time pushing implants. When I reiterated my desire for a DIEP flap, he explained the lengthy surgery (14-15 hours), extended ICU stay (3 days) plus a few more days in a hospital room after that, and a difficult recovery period (using a walker for many weeks and feeling like I was hit by a bus). He also dodged my question about success rates, only offering the national average. Furthermore, he expressed concern about my ability to achieve my desired outcome (a solid B cup size) and the possibility of needing an implant if the flap failed (as he didn’t do alternative flaps like SGAP). Needless to say, I left that appointment feeling emotional, scared and discouraged, as he was the only surgeon in Oregon who could perform a DIEP flap within my time-frame.
My local plastic surgeon then ordered a CTA scan to examine my blood vessels for eligibility. After reviewing the results, he informed me that my anatomy necessitated using muscle tissue to harvest the blood vessels for the DIEP flap, a variation he called MS-2 DIEP. Online research yielded zero information about MS-2 DIEP, but I did find references to MS-TRAM flaps, which takes muscle and carries the risk of a permanent bulge and can impact core strength.
Concerned about this possibility, I contacted my local plastic surgeon to clarify if an MS-TRAM flap was planned. He confirmed this would be the procedure and told me it was impossible to not take muscle. Unconvinced that using muscle tissue was unavoidable, I joined online support groups to seek further information.
Through these online support groups, I discovered the APEX Flap, a technique that preserves muscle by severing the blood vessel behind the muscle and rerouting it. Unfortunately, at the time, I couldn’t find any surgeons offering this procedure in the Pacific Northwest (after many phone calls), forcing me to consider surgeons further away. Every surgeon in the PNW wanted to take muscle and use abdominal mesh.
Feeling defeated, I contacted my mentor assigned through Pink Lemonade. While I was lamenting my situation, she urged me to consider the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery in New Orleans, despite being out-of-network. Desperate for a solution, I contacted the Center and sent my imaging overnight. The initial contact, a nurse, made me feel instantly welcome and supported, like a warm hug over the phone. While I was hopeful, I knew I still needed to speak with a surgeon to avoid another disappointing outcome. Thankfully, the Center didn’t charge for a remote consultation, and I was scheduled to speak with Dr. Cabiling.
Dr. Cabiling was kind and understanding. He assured me that his experience and skillset allowed him to perform the Apex Flap based on my unique anatomy, eliminating the need for muscle removal, mesh, and minimizing the risk of a bulge. When I hung up the phone, tears of joy streamed down my face. I finally found the right place for me.
I settled up with billing (shout out to Cappy for holding my hand through the insurance process) and received a quick surgery date as I had active cancer and mastectomy was my treatment instead of radiation.
First Day at the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery
The pre-op appointments scheduled for the day before surgery solidified my choice. Walking into the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery’s waiting room was a transformative experience. Spa music filled the air, beautiful furniture adorned the space, and a sense of calm washed over me.
I met with a physical therapist, the anesthesia team, and my incredible surgical team: Dr. Ordoyne, the breast surgeon I instantly connected with, and Dr. Cabiling, the plastic surgeon, along with his PA, Kati. After a long day of being in surgery, Dr. Cabiling patiently explained the Apex Flap procedure, answered all my questions, and exuded a humble, kind, yet undeniably expert demeanor. Unlike other surgeons who boasted about their credentials, his impressive resume spoke for itself. My husband, who accompanied me, immediately felt confident about our decision to travel for this surgery.
Dr. Cabiling marked the surgical incisions, and with a mix of excitement and nervousness, I knew a life-changing surgery awaited me the next morning.
Diep Flap Surgery Experience at CRBS/St. Charles Surgical Hospital in New Orleans
Early in the morning of September 2023, I arrived at St. Charles Surgical Hospital. Dr. Cabiling stopped by to answer any last-minute questions before surgery. The surgery itself lasted 6.5 hours, significantly shorter than the 14-15 hours estimated by my local surgeon. Dr. Cabiling, along with Dr. Ordoyne and assisting surgeons, worked together seamlessly to perform a double mastectomy, immediate DIEP flap reconstruction, and the Apex Flap technique on my left abdomen.
Remarkably, they even took a picture mid-surgery to show me later that my abdominal rectus muscle remained intact and no mesh was used. Throughout the surgery, text updates were sent to my husband, keeping him informed of my progress. As an added bonus, they even repaired my diastasis recti (a separation of the abdominal muscles that occurred during pregnancy). Thankfully, I experienced no surgical complications and transitioned smoothly to recovery.
I spent my recovery at their amazing 37-bed hospital dedicated to women undergoing mastectomy and/or reconstruction (the only hospital of its kind). The care team was exceptional. Doppler monitors were used to track blood flow to the flap, and I received constant, attentive care in my own private hospital room, complete with a Murphy bed for added comfort of the caregiver.
The next day, the nurses encouraged me to walk three laps around the hospital floor, which I managed with the help of a little (and delicious) pudding bribe! They also provided pain management and taught me how to shower independently. After two nights, I was discharged from the hospital, equipped with all the medical supplies I’d need for recovery, filling an entire empty suitcase!
The First Week After DIEP Flap Surgery
Due to budget limitations, I opted to stay at the Hope Lodge after discharge. This free accommodation, generously funded by the American Cancer Society, provided a supportive environment during my recovery. There was even a room sponsored by the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery, offering comfortable furniture, puzzles, movies, and blankets – a true haven for healing.
While there, I met many other women recovering from various procedures, including DIEP Flap surgery and SGAP Flap (another option for athletic women, women needing a secondary donor site, or those with previous tummy tucks).
About five days post-op, I transitioned from Oxycodone to Advil and Tylenol, allowing for increased mobility and a straighter posture. A week after surgery, I had my first post-op appointment. Dr. Ordoyne reviewed my pathology results, and Dr. Cabiling and his PA, Kati, removed my breast drains and discussed post-operative care.
Flying Home After DIEP Flap and Double Mastectomy
The day after my post-op visit, I flew home with the help of a wheelchair at the airport. To prevent blood clots, I wore compression socks and used an Intermittent Pneumatic Compression Device (IPC) on my calves during the flight.
Thankfully, I experienced minimal discomfort and enjoyed reading and chatting with other passengers. During my layover, I managed to strip my drains (and record output) in a family restroom before continuing my journey home. The trip home went very smoothly.
Diep Flap/Apex Flap Recovery
Back home, I rented a lift chair for a month to aid sleeping on my back. Dr. Cabiling’s PA, Kati, contacted me weekly to address any questions or concerns. The Center assured me they were readily available (which they were), and I could send photos for remote consultations if needed. Thankfully, with the comprehensive supplies provided at discharge, I had everything I needed to manage my recovery at home.
The Center provided everything needed to remove the hip drains at home (about a week after my post-op appointment when the drains produced under 30 mL after 2 days). The removal process itself was painless! Every day, I looked at my incisions and my new flat belly (complete with a cute belly button!), overwhelmed with gratitude for finding a skilled surgeon who performed the Apex Flap and avoided the dreaded bulge (and retained my core muscle).
Unlike my initial surgeon who relied on CTA scans to determine DIEP flap eligibility, the Center uses them as a roadmap for surgery. Their flowchart helps determine the surgical approach based on individual patient anatomy and blood vessel location.
Looking back, I’m amazed at how smooth my recovery was. I was up and walking much sooner than anticipated, without the hunched posture my local surgeon predicted. Yes, there was numbness and tightness, but it was manageable.
Phase 2 DIEP Surgery
Three months after my initial DIEP surgery, I returned for Phase 2 surgery with Dr. Cabiling. While I was already 90% satisfied with my results, I desired some minor cosmetic refinements. During my pre-op appointment, I expected Dr. Cabiling to dictate the surgical plan. However, he surprised me by asking about my specific areas for improvement and actively listened to my desired outcomes before suggesting solutions.
The surgery involved extending my incision to redistribute unwanted upper flank and hip fat to my breasts, along with lowering my front incision for improved aesthetics. The procedure lasted approximately 3.5 hours. I stayed overnight at the hospital, then returned to the Hope Lodge before flying home 3 days post-op.
After taking some additional time off work, I gradually returned to my normal routine.
Now
When I look in the mirror today, I see a beautiful body. I absolutely love my results. It’s hard to believe the initial surgeon told me implants were my only option to preserve my abdominal rectus muscle and achieving a B cup size was unrealistic. Thanks to the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery’s expertise and the Apex Flap technique, I have achieved DD breasts using my own tissue, while preserving my abdominal muscle.
My first surgeon said I would only look “normal with clothes on,” but for me, feeling confident and beautiful without clothes is equally important. I am beyond grateful for my decision to travel for surgery. The Center for Restorative Breast Surgery not only restored my body but preserved my muscular integrity.
Conclusion
If you’re considering DIEP flap reconstruction, I highly recommend the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery. Their expertise, dedication, and commitment to achieving the best possible outcome for their patients are truly remarkable.
Our experienced team is with you every step of the way, helping you find the best care plan tailored just for you.
Schedule your complimentary breast reconstruction education call with us to learn more about your personalized options.

